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Los artículos 9, 14, 29 y 59 fueron aprobados como están contemplados en la ponencia.
El artículo 25 fue aprobado con la proposición del senador JFCRisto
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Ese cambio en la mentalidad del autor fue motivado también por el libro (el olvido que seremos), que el escritor Hector Abad Faciolince escribiera sobre la vida y muerte de su padre, el medico y defensor de derechos humanos Hector Abad Gomez. Entender que lo mejor era saber la verdad y recordar con amor, y no tratar de olvidar al ser querido y su historia, dio pie para que el Senador Cristo decidiera proponerle a su Bancada en el Senado elaborar un Proyecto de Ley para todas las victimas de la Violencia que contemplara la reparación integral entendida como el verdadero acceso a verdad, justicia y reparación justa, acompañado de medidas de no repetición y de recordación que impidieran que esos hechos se volvieran a dar y que le permitiera a la sociedad recordar a sus victimas.
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A finales de 2007 con el nombre de Proyecto de Ley 157 de 2007 Senado, la Bancada Liberal presento el proyecto al que se le asignaron ponentes de todos los partidos y que fue aprobado por unanimidad por la Comisión. Después comenzó a rendir su trámite hacia la Plenaria del Senado en donde el Gobierno le hizo algunos reparos que fueron atendidos por los ponentes y otros en donde se concertó, logrando que la Plenaria del Senado a pesar de algunas objeciones de Gobierno, todos los partidos le demostraran al país que no eran los victimarios los únicos beneficiarios de las leyes y que era el Congreso o por lo menos el Senado de las Victimas.
Con mucho optimismo el proyecto entro con el Numero 044 de 2008 Cámara con el respaldo de organizaciones de derechos humanos de Estados Unidos y Europa, y con el respaldo del Naciones Unidas que financiaron y patrocinaron más de nueve audiencias publicas de la Comisión Primera de la Cámara en las regiones más golpeadas por la violencia, para que los parlamentarios escucharan a las victimas y para que lo que ellas dijeran fuera incluido en el proyecto. Como nunca antes el Congreso de la República salio de Bogotá, fueron más de cuatro mil victimas que asistieron a hacer propuestas y que se esperanzaron con la primera iniciativa estatal seria por reparar integralmente a todos los ciudadanos vapuleados por la guerra. El representante liberal Guillermo Rivera en una juiciosa y paciente labor, asistió a todas las audiencias y trató de incluir todas las inquietudes que las victimas plasmaron en las audiencias. El representante Rivera coordino con los demás partidos políticos una ponencia unificada que apoyaron todas la victimas, la ONU y un número importante de organismos no gubernamentales colombianos e internacionales. Sin embargo el Gobierno se le opuso tajantemente como si se tratará de un punto de honor político y en un acto bochornoso descuartizó el proyecto.
La Comisión Primera de la Cámara, victimizó una vez más a las victimas; dándoles un máximo de reparación económica de 19 millones de pesos, compensación irrisoria comparado con lo que pueden obtener por demandas en lo contencioso administrativo hoy; excluye a victimas de agentes estatales; No respeta los conceptos de las Naciones Unidas; no repara por responsabilidad al no garantizar los derechos humanos de los ciudadanos sino por solidaridad, lavándose las manos al no reconocer que el conflicto es en gran parte por no presencia estatal; y lo peor de todo excluye a las futuras victimas como si el conflicto hubiera acabado. Lo aprobado por la Comisión I de la Cámara es muy diferente a lo que aceptó el Senado razón por la cual nos vimos forzados, junto a todas las organizaciones de victimas, a pedir el archivo del mismo para poder presentar un proyecto decente y digno que respete y garantice una reparación integral y la no repetición de los hechos violentos.
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Pero lo más seguro es que en este río revuelto se indemnizarán no tanto a las victimas sino a los victimarios.
Es así que de los 65.000 narcoterroristas que han entrado en combates con el Ejército, estos se llevan sus muertos. Luego aparecen en fosas comunes y ahora sus familiares alegarán que eran inocentes campesinos o sacrificados sindicalistas.
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Pero lo más seguro es que en este río revuelto se indemnizarán no tanto a las victimas sino a los victimarios.
Es así que de los 65.000 narcoterroristas que han entrado en combates con el Ejército, estos se llevan sus muertos. Luego aparecen en fosas comunes y ahora sus familiares alegarán que eran inocentes campesinos o sacrificados sindicalistas.
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